Chicago Bulls

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Θα αποσυρθεί το νούμερο 1 του Ρόουζ.



Μετά από καιρό έκανε και κάτι σωστό η ομάδα.

[reignman]

Θα αποσυρθεί το νούμερο 1 του Ρόουζ.



Μετά από καιρό έκανε και κάτι σωστό η ομάδα.

για αρμεγμα το κανουν.

$300 τα πιο φθηνα εισητηρια στα nose bleeders αποψε.


Και ποιος ξερει τι θα ζητησουν του χρονου οταν θα αποσυρουν την φανελα (ενω θα μπορουσαν να το κανουν σημερα που ειναι Derrick Rose night)

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Και ποιος ξερει τι θα ζητησουν του χρονου οταν θα αποσυρουν την φανελα (ενω θα μπορουσαν να το κανουν σημερα που ειναι Derrick Rose night)

Το ξέρουμε, αλλιώς η οικογένεια Reinsdorf δεν άφηνε να το χάλι των τελευταίων χρόνων να συνεχιστεί. Τους αρέσουν να εισπράττουν χρήματα και όχι να ξοδεύουν.

[reignman]

[ggr]

Προχτές μίλησα με έναν κύριο, ο οποίος δουλεύει σε μαγαζί εστίασης απέναντι από το σταθμό Ακρόπολη του μετρό. Η συζήτηση ξεκίνησε λόγω του μπουφάν που φορούσα (Bulls), μιας και φορούσε ένα της ίδιας ομάδας και εκείνος. Όταν τον ρώτησε η κόρη μου τι ομάδα είναι, της απάντησε Ολυμπιακός και Σικάγο. Μήπως ήταν κάποιος από εδώ;

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Τσάμπα ήττα από τους Κινγκς, τα πολλά χαμένα αμυντικά ριμπάουντ μας στοίχησαν. Ήθελε μεγάλη προσπάθεια από τον Josh Giddey να κάνει πέντε δευτερόλεπτα στην επαναφορά στην πιο κρίσιμη επίθεση μας. Ακόμη δεν έχω χωνέψει πως έπιασε έτσι κορόιδο η OKC. Πάλεψε μόνος του Λαβίν αν και έχασε κάποια σουτ στο τέλος, ειδικά στο 119-120 σούταρε πολύ βιαστικά όταν πόσταρε. Κλασικός Βούτσεβιτς, παίζει καλά όποτε το θυμάται. Σηκώνω ψηλά τα χέρια με την περίπτωση του Williams που δεν τον έχουν στείλει πακέτο κάπου άλλου με ανταλλαγή οι AKME. Χάρηκα που ο Μπολ έκανε μια μεστή εμφάνιση στην πρώτη συμμετοχή στη βασική πεντάδα.

[reignman]

Τσάμπα ήττα από τους Κινγκς, τα πολλά χαμένα αμυντικά ριμπάουντ μας στοίχησαν. Ήθελε μεγάλη προσπάθεια από τον Josh Giddey να κάνει πέντε δευτερόλεπτα στην επαναφορά στην πιο κρίσιμη επίθεση μας. Ακόμη δεν έχω χωνέψει πως έπιασε έτσι κορόιδο η OKC. Πάλεψε μόνος του Λαβίν αν και έχασε κάποια σουτ στο τέλος, ειδικά στο 119-120 σούταρε πολύ βιαστικά όταν πόσταρε. Κλασικός Βούτσεβιτς, παίζει καλά όποτε το θυμάται. Σηκώνω ψηλά τα χέρια με την περίπτωση του Williams που δεν τον έχουν στείλει πακέτο κάπου άλλου με ανταλλαγή οι AKME. Χάρηκα που ο Μπολ έκανε μια μεστή εμφάνιση στην πρώτη συμμετοχή στη βασική πεντάδα.

περαν του οτι επεσε σφαξιματακι με το βαμβακι... ο λαβιν π.χ σε καθε ντραιβ που εκανε του εκαναν 3-4 φαουλ... μονο σουγιαδες δεν εβγαλαν.
οι λογοι που χασαμε ειναι 2.

1) ο p(no)will, με 2 φασεις που ηταν και οι 2 momentum killers. 1η φαση χανουν σουτ οι κινγκς (4η περιοδο ειμαστε μπροστα με 4 ή 5 ποντους) αποφασιζει για πρωτη φορα μεσα στην βραδια να παει να κανει contest σε rebound... και κανει tip την μπαλα μεσα απο τα χερια ΔΙΚΟΥ ΜΑΣ παικτη (Jalen Smith) η μπαλα πεφτει σε χερια παιχτη των Kings, εξτρα πασα εξω στο τριποντο στον Fox Και η διαφορα παει στον 1.
2η φαση που ηταν απολυτο momentum killer, αιφνιδιασμος 3 on 1, p(no)will με την μπαλα... μοναδικος αμυντικος ο derozan... trailers giddey & lavine και λιγο πιο πισω vucevic... και ο p(no)will παει για ενα χαλαρο λειαπ και καταφερνει να του κλεψει την μπαλα ο derozan και να την βγαλει εκτος γηπεδου.

2) σε αυτη που θα μπορουσε να ειναι η τελευταια μας επιθεση με τον lavine στο κεντρο του γηπεδου με αντιπαλο τον χειροτερο αμυντικο τον kings (derozan) και ξαφνικα πεταγεται ο billy botovan να ζητησει timeout... οπου ω θεοι τι παραξενο... μετα απο timeout μας εμεινε η μπαλα στα χερια (αν και ηταν 4.6" παραβιαστηκε ο ref να δωσει με ενθουσιαστικο σφυριγμα την μπαλα στο sacramento).

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After another sloppy loss that marked the halfway point of another aimless season, the Chicago Bulls held another team meeting.
Starting center Nikola Vučević commanded his teammates’ attention inside the locker room this time. The injury-ravaged Atlanta Hawks had strolled into the United Center and bullied Chicago with a 110-94 win Wednesday.
Everything about the game encapsulated the Bulls’ disjointed first half of the season. We saw careless turnovers — 20 that led to 22 Hawks points — as well as errant shooting (Chicago missed 21 of 27 3-point tries) and shoddy defensive rebounding that gave Atlanta 27 second-chance points.
“We focus on the wrong things,” Vučević said. “We have to understand that it’s the details that make the difference at this level.”
Vučević was referring to the team’s lack of attention to detail on the court, but he could have easily been describing any number of departments throughout the organization. Given this franchise’s extensive recent struggles, it’s impossible to see Chicago’s solutions being solely performance-based.
Nothing that Vučević said following Wednesday’s defeat sounded different from previous postgame tongue-lashings. In past seasons, the Bulls’ stars, such as DeMar DeRozan and Zach LaVine, led the way. At times, role players like Goran Dragić and Patrick Beverley delivered the same impassioned pleas during their short stints on the roster.
The Bulls (18-23) just missed having the same record after 41 games for the fourth time in five seasons. They were 19-22 at this juncture in three of the previous four seasons.
It doesn’t matter who’s on the roster, what style the Bulls play, how many players speak out or how many have checked out: The Bulls can’t escape mediocrity.
“I don’t view it that way when you’re in the moment,” Bulls coach Billy Donovan said of being stuck in the middle. “You’re just talking about competing and just coaching and these guys playing.”
And so it goes for the Bulls, who are on a collision course for the Play-In Tournament for the third-straight season. They’re in 10th place in the Eastern Conference standings, four games behind the Indiana Pacers for sixth. The Bulls made the Play-In as the ninth seed in each of the previous two seasons.
“The goal is to win,” Donovan said Wednesday.
Basketball purists will appreciate the organization’s principles. There’s another segment of forward-thinking fans who are tired of watching a once-proud franchise serve as a perennial punching bag — and they’re not wrong for seeing little value in another trip to the Play-in Tournament.
Those fans don’t crave trivial wins but want someone in Chicago to step up and demonstrate a long-term vision. They want someone, be it from the sidelines or the executive suite, who isn’t afraid to boldly guide this franchise in a clear direction. Player meetings and rah-rah speeches are temporary fixes, not permanent solutions.

For the Bulls, this second half is about more than whether they’ll be mediocre and miss the playoffs again. The significance of the final 41 games stretches into the long-term health and stability of the franchise.
In the backdrop of this stretch run — or at least what should be — is the big picture: The Bulls owe their first-round pick this year to the San Antonio Spurs if the selection falls out of the top 10.
Chicago currently owns the league’s ninth-worst record, yet has shown no urgency to part with its most talented players via the trade market. With three weeks remaining until the trading deadline, questions are beginning to swirl around the Bulls of whether the franchise will be active at all. Chicago hasn’t made a deadline deal in the past three seasons, opting instead for a stale status quo.
This year feels different because of its significance. Everyone can see Chicago has a low ceiling that is well below championship contention. Without a collection of stars, or the means to attract them, the Bulls will continue riding the hamster wheel. Feel-good wins may provide entertainment and might placate the purists, but they’ll also keep the Bulls stuck in this endless pattern of frustration.
If ever there was a time for the front office to demonstrate a one-step-backward, two-steps-forward approach, this is that time. They turned down previous opportunities to sell high on desirable players like DeRozan and Alex Caruso, only to receive less compensation than they could have had they traded them earlier. The reward for their commitment to continuity was one playoff win — a game, not a series — in 2022.
Now comes the biggest test for the Bulls, one that, again, has nothing to do with what happens on the court. Executive vice president of basketball operations Artūras Karnišovas promised at the start of the season that the Bulls weren’t done rebuilding. With only 11 games remaining before the deadline, the Bulls don’t have much time left to deliberate.
LaVine, Vučević and Coby White are Chicago’s most attractive assets. There are no untouchable players on the roster, but the Bulls have been reluctant to move their best players. They’ve flat-out rejected the notion of attaching additional assets to move on from players. It’s a stance that has made the Bulls impossible trade partners.
But now they must get off the fence. The next five years of Chicago Bulls basketball are hanging in the balance.
We know what the future looks like if they do nothing.

Εδώ καιρό έχουμε καταλάβει πως οι AKME δεν έχουν κανένα πλάνο, όσο παραμένουν θα ζούμε κάθε σεζόν την ημέρα της μαρμότας. Γι΄εμένα πρέπει να υπάρχουν untouchable players στο ρόστερ, οι εξής τρεις: Ayo, White και Μπουζέλις για να χτίσεις πάνω τους την ομάδα και κάνεις ανταλλαγή τους υπόλοιπους. Αλλά όσο μένει το FO στη θέση του και δεν έχουμε νέους ιδιοκτήτες τίποτα δεν θα αλλάξει. Και σε rebuilding να πάμε θάλασσα θα τα κάνουμε και ο Darnell Mayberry θα συνεχίσει να γράφει τα ίδια άρθρα.

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Άρθρο των Chicago Sun-Times που λέει μέσα σε άκρες πως σχεδόν όλο το ρόστερ είναι διαθέσιμο για ανταλλαγή.

The Suns recently added a bunch of first-round draft picks in a trade with the Jazz with the hope of dealing for disgruntled Heat star Jimmy Butler.
That won’t be easy, however, considering guard Bradley Beal would have to agree to waive his no-trade clause to go to the Heat as part of the deal.
So what if that situation continues to remain a stalemate? Might the Suns instead try to add Bulls center Nikola Vucevic in exchange for center Jusuf Nurkic, who has made it known he has no relationship with coach Mike Budenholzer and hasn’t spoken with him in weeks?
On the surface, it’s a fit, but the Suns can’t aggregate salaries and can’t trade for a player making more money than one they send out. Vucevic makes about $1.5 million more than Nurkic.
So while a deal that would bring Nurkic and a draft pick to the Bulls for Vucevic sounds great, the reality is that these are among the obstacles executive vice president of basketball operations Arturas Karnisovas is trying to surmount.
The Sun-Times and other outlets have reported Karnisovas has been looking to trade guard Zach LaVine, Vucevic and guard Lonzo Ball since the offseason. He has been looking to deal LaVine even longer.
And with the trade deadline Feb. 6 approaching, those aren’t the only three players Karnisovas would consider dealing. Besides rookie Matas Buzelis (not that he’s completely untouchable), Karnisovas would be willing to part with anyone on the roster if he thinks it would make the Bulls a better team in the long term and help them keep their top-10-protected draft pick this summer.
A source reiterated that Karnisovas has come down on what teams thought were unrealistic asking prices earlier in the season, but that doesn’t mean he is willing simply to give players away.
The Sun-Times also has reported that what happens with Butler carries a lot of weight because that’s the first trade domino that has to fall. That has led to some frustration around the league for teams trying to get non-Butler business done.
The other issue Karnisovas is trying to navigate is that many of the ‘‘haves’’ looking to add talent have the same financial issues the Suns do, while the ‘‘have-nots’’ are burrowed in their foxhole with visions of Cooper Flagg and the No. 1 pick dancing in their heads. That limits what Karnisovas can try to do.
Then there are a few younger teams that are climbing, such as the Pistons, who would love to add a veteran such as LaVine. The issue there is that the Pistons don’t have top-shelf contracts to send back in return because they are so young.
That doesn’t mean the Pistons won’t be involved in a major trade, however. They have salary-cap space and can be a third or fourth team involved if a blockbuster goes down, so they might be players in this one way or the other.
So where does all this leave Karnisovas and the Bulls? Better off than they were a few weeks ago, but not by much.
On Jan. 12, the Bulls had the third-easiest remaining schedule in the league. Most of that light lifting, however, was taken care of in the last eight games. The Bulls went 1-7 in that span and will enter their game Monday against the Nuggets with the 10th-toughest schedule left.
They still sit 10th and in the last play-in spot in the Eastern Conference, but the 11th-place 76ers have closed the gap to only a game, thanks to their victory Saturday at the United Center. Realistically, the best the Bulls could do is to finish with the seventh-worst record.
If Karnisovas can unload some talent in the next week, that would make it easier.
If only it were that simple.

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Πάλι δίκασε τον AK ο Darnell Mayberry.

No player on the Chicago Bulls’ roster is untouchable.
Consider that a reminder to the franchise’s front office rather than its frustrated fan base. It’s a message Bulls management must comprehend as the NBA’s Feb. 6 trade deadline nears.
Led by executive vice president of basketball operations Artūras Karnišovas, the Bulls have allowed the last three deadlines to pass without doing anything. They could have been buyers and attempted to improve their roster but didn’t. They could have tried selling and netting the organization future assets but chose pseudo continuity.
Their last deadline-day move occurred on March 25, 2021, when the franchise acquired Nikola Vučević from the Orlando Magic and, in a separate deal, Daniel Theis, Javonte Green and Troy Brown Jr.
It shouldn’t be a surprise that the Bulls have been mired in mediocrity ever since, a run-of-the-mill franchise that can’t concoct a fruitful path forward. Chicago is 176-189 since Karnišovas took over as the Bulls’ chief basketball executive in 2020. With only one winning season in that span — and the franchise on pace for another losing record this season — the Bulls are the embodiment of average.
That’s been Chicago’s penance for failing to choose a path and committing to it. Retooling with back-end players to remain marginally competitive was never a direction, and if the Bulls stand pat at the deadline for a fourth straight season, it will be a massive indictment that they’re not even trying to figure it out.
Chicago has lost eight of its last 11 games and sits in 10th place in the Eastern Conference standings. Four of the Bulls’ final five games before the trade deadline are on the road, and leading scorer Zach LaVine will miss the next handful because of personal reasons, per coach Billy Donovan.
The Bulls could be 10 games below .500 at the deadline. Then what?
Chasing a third-straight Play-in Tournament appearance, with the potential upside being a likely first-round thumping by the Boston Celtics or Cleveland Cavaliers, makes little sense. Meanwhile, every win the Bulls notch puts their first-round draft pick in greater danger of being conveyed to the San Antonio Spurs as compensation for the DeMar DeRozan trade.
There’s only one choice for the Bulls, and that’s to treat the trade deadline like a closeout sale: “Everything must go!”
A seventh championship in Chicago has never felt more distant thanks to the decaying state of the franchise.
Attempts to accelerating this reclamation process through bold acquisitions of Vučević, DeRozan, Lonzo Ball and Alex Caruso didn’t work. All that did was land the Bulls one playoff win. Overpaying to retain players — LaVine, Vučević and Patrick Williams being extended in consecutive offseasons — also hasn’t panned out. And top-flight free agents annually skip over Chicago, because the Bulls can’t afford them because of salary-cap constraints.
The best way for the Bulls to get off their perpetual hamster wheel is by doing the one thing they’ve adamantly opposed: start over.
Excluding the Caruso-Josh Giddey trade, Karnišovas has developed a reputation for being an impossible negotiator in trade talks. He covets his players to the point of overvaluing them, and to relinquish them, he demands a steep price that rivals have been unwilling to pay.
Another opportunity has arrived for Karnišovas to show some creativity. He’s built a roster lined with serviceable, not spectacular, players. In the right setting, every player on the Bulls roster might be an effective performer. In Chicago, however, the pieces just don’t fit.
Yet there are a half-dozen Bulls players who opposing teams might want in their organizations. Though the reasons vary, the Bulls should entertain calls on all six. The recipe for a return is a tried-and-true formula: promising young players (ideally who can shoot and play defense) and draft capital.
Karnišovas and the Bulls are no longer in a position to hold out for a sweetheart deal. This is one of the last chances Chicago has to convert coveted players from their ineffective nucleus into prolonged assets it can build with into the future.
It’s time for Karnišovas and the Bulls to make some tough decisions.
Here’s a look at the six Bulls who have the most trade value and why their individual circumstances warrant trades. (Note: the list is in alphabetical order.)

Lonzo Ball | Position: Guard | Contract status: Final year, $21.4 million
Ball is the NBA’s comeback story of the year after missing 2 1/2 seasons with a career-threatening left knee injury. He’s appeared in only 27 games and remains on a 25-minute restriction, but he might be the Bulls’ most impactful player. Ball leads the team in plus-minus, with the Bulls having outscored opponents by 78 points when he’s been on the court. Only two other rotation players, LaVine and rookie Matas Buzelis, have a positive plus-minus.
Ball’s 3-point shooting, individual and team defense, rebounding and passing remain strengths. In 12 January contests, he’s averaging 9.0 points, 3.8 rebounds, 3.3 assists and two steals in 23.9 minutes per game. His offensive game is predominately perimeter-oriented as he attempts only one shot per game inside the 3-point arc. Ball is shooting 37.2 percent on 6.5 3s per game in January. He clearly can help a contender.
If the Bulls don’t intend to re-sign Ball this summer, there is no point in keeping him past the deadline. Instead, they can extend his value by turning his expiring contract into another asset. Of course, a team needs to absorb Ball’s remaining salary and send the Bulls compensation, which could complicate trade discussions if rivals deem Ball to be attainable for less in free agency. A motivated team, however, would want to bring in Ball now to acquire his Bird rights, which permits teams to exceed the salary cap to re-sign him.
Ball, 27, seeks a long-term contract as he resurrects his career. The Bulls aren’t at a place where they need Ball, and committing money to retain him given his ongoing recovery isn’t the best use of resources.

Ayo Dosunmu | Position: Guard | Contract status: One year left, $7.5 million
In his fourth season, Dosunmu has blossomed into the ultimate utility player. He plays both guard spots and brings tenacious defense, transition scoring, dutiful rebounding and a splash of leadership. He’s playing on one of the league’s value contracts — and that might not be the case for much longer.
Dosunmu, 25, will be in the final year of his contract next season. He’s due for a healthy raise, but the Bulls must be careful. They can’t fall in love with the feel-good story — the Chicago kid who became a fan favorite for his hometown team — and overpay once again. Dwyane Wade benefited financially from the Bulls’ hometown bump. So did Jabari Parker. Jevon Carter, too.
What the Bulls must decipher is how much better Dosunmu can get. He has ample room to grow, and he likely will. If his perimeter shooting hadn’t betrayed him this season, he’d look like a no-brainer for an extension. But it’s hard to envision Dosunmu on a championship-caliber team as more than an impactful sixth man. The problem for the Bulls is they need to nail down a new quality set of starters before building out their bench.

Zach LaVine | Position: Guard | Contract status: Two years left, $95 million
LaVine has done all the right things in what’s been a bounce-back season. He appeared in only 25 contests last season because of a foot injury. But he’s looked like the best version of himself at times this season.
LaVine is averaging 24 points while shooting 51.1 percent from the field and 44.6 percent on 7.3 3-point attempts per game. He’s picked up his defense following the departures of Caruso and space-eating center Andre Drummond, often guarding the other team’s best scorer. And he’s altered his game to fit the Bulls’ preferred style of play: faster, more decisive and more 3s. It still, however, hasn’t led to winning.
After eight seasons in Chicago, it looks like winning isn’t in the cards for LaVine with the Bulls. Holding out for a haul on the trade market is only prolonging the Bulls’ stay in basketball purgatory. A salary dump with the goal of charting a new course wouldn’t be a bad strategy. It prevents the Bulls from doing what they’ve previously balked at — attaching additional assets to a LaVine trade — and acquiring second-round picks is better than possessing no draft picks. The picks don’t have to be used. They can become a part of the Bulls’ trade capital.
The Bulls love having at least one star on their roster. They know it’s good for business. It’s just not the best for building a winning culture.

Nikola Vučević | Position: Center | Contract status: One year left, $21.5 million
Vučević has been one of the league’s most consistent performers throughout his Bulls tenure, and he’s playing at an All-Star level this season. After shooting 29 percent from 3-point range last season, Vooch has connected on 40 percent from that distance in 2024-25. His shooting has garnered attention from teams in need of a stretch big.
he Bulls, perhaps more specifically Karnišovas, love Vučević’s all-around impact. He’s also a decent low-post scorer, terrific passer, solid rebounder and proficient foul shooter. His lateral quickness and rim protection on defense are limitations, and on the defensively challenged Bulls, his mistakes are more noticeable.
Vučević, 34, is the oldest player on the Bulls. His presence isn’t just felt on the court but also in the locker room. He demonstrates on a daily basis to the Bulls’ young players what it means to be a pro. He’s just not in the team’s long-term plans. At this stage of his career, he can’t be. That makes Vučević an obvious candidate to be traded — either before the deadline or this summer.

Coby White | Position: Guard | Contract status: One year left, $12.9 million
The predicament the Bulls are in with Dosunmu? Multiply it times five with White, who is a starter, more accomplished and in line to receive a more lucrative extension.
White is on track to take a similar jump in pay as LaVine did when he went from $19.5 million in 2021-22 to $37 million the next season. It’s almost impossible for performance to keep pace with that level of inflation. LaVine quickly went from exceeding expectations on a bargain contract to being unable to play hero while on a bloated contract. The Bulls are dangerously close to repeating history.
White is a talented player, and when he has an off shooting night, it’s no big deal. He’s still the third scoring option. Soon, he could be paid and expected to perform like a No. 1 option. The Bulls should know as well as any franchise all that comes with heightened expectations.

Patrick Williams | Position: Forward | Contract status: Four years left, $72 million
An underwhelming fifth season took another turn when Williams was demoted to a reserve role in Monday’s home win against the Denver Nuggets. Williams actually excelled off the bench, scoring 11 points with eight rebounds and three assists in 28 minutes. His performance, however, only cranked the volume on questions of whether Williams fits better off the bench.
Williams also didn’t do himself any favors when, after a two-point performance in a home loss to the Philadelphia 76ers last Saturday, he declared, “I got game.” But he showed Saturday that he remains a useful player as a versatile defender, spot-up shooter and secondary playmaker. At only 23, Williams also has a long runway for development.
The question is whether Williams will unlock all his gifts with the Bulls. He’s laboring through a career-worst season, averaging 9.2 points on 37.2 percent shooting, and at times he plays like he needs a change of scenery.
The biggest challenge for the Bulls could be finding a taker willing to commit to Williams’ contract now. He’s in the first year of a five-year, $90 million extension the Bulls gave him last summer. He’s another example of a player whose pay has exceeded his production. Williams’ contract still could be team-friendly, but he must first escape the funk in which he’s landed.
He’s talented enough to manufacture a breakout season. Long-suffering Bulls fans can only hope it doesn’t happen someplace else.

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Είδα το ματς με τους Πίστονς, κλασσικά εικονογραφημένα, δεν έχει νόημα να γράψω και πάλι τα ίδια. Ο Buzelis πρέπει να παίζει περισσότερο, μίνιμουμ 30 λεπτά αλλιώς δεν πρόκειται να βελτιωθεί. Σίγουρα ο Billy Donovan είναι προπονητής;

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Δεν ξέρω εάν πρέπει να κλάψε ή να γελάσω μ΄ αυτά που λέει ο AK. Για χάρη του νομίζω πρέπει να καθιερωθεί το βραβείο του μεγαλύτερου παπατζή για FO.

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[j-kidd13]

Ωχ ωχ ωχ , κρυφτειτε, η αρμαδα των very good players ετοιμαζει την αντεπιθεση της.

[reignman]

Ωχ ωχ ωχ , κρυφτειτε, η αρμαδα των very good players ετοιμαζει την αντεπιθεση της.

το αστειο της υποθεσης ειναι πως απο οσο θυμαμαι.... απο Late 90s μεχρι σημερα, η μονη ομαδα που ΟΡΙΑΚΑ θα μπορουσε να βρισκεται σε αυτη την περιγραφη ειναι οι pistons του 04, οσο μπορεις να πεις οτι απλα ειχαν 8 καλους παιχτες... οταν ειχαν 4 all-stars και ο ben wallace ηταν αμυντικος superstar.