NBA - Σενάρια, Trades, Offseason 2024/25

[nikolas_asteri]

-45 North Dakota λέει

[reignman]

[SteveNashidis]

Βγήκε νέο σενάριο μετά τα χθεσινά

Miami : Middleton, Portis, 2 suns pick
Pistons: Connaughton
Milwaukee: Beal, 1 suns pick
Phoenix: Butler, Richardson


Μετά την ανταλλαγή του πικ 2031 για τρια πικς της Γιούτα φαίνεται ότι το επικείμενο τρειντ θα γίνει πραγματικότητα

[nikolas_asteri]

Βγήκε νέο σενάριο μετά τα χθεσινά

Miami : Middleton, Portis, 2 suns pick
Pistons: Connaughton
Milwaukee: Beal, 1 suns pick
Phoenix: Butler, Richardson


Μετά την ανταλλαγή του πικ 2031 για τρια πικς της Γιούτα φαίνεται ότι το επικείμενο τρειντ θα γίνει πραγματικότητα

Καλά τι πάνε να κάνουν οι Μπακς;

[SteveNashidis]

Βγήκε νέο σενάριο μετά τα χθεσινά

Miami : Middleton, Portis, 2 suns pick
Pistons: Connaughton
Milwaukee: Beal, 1 suns pick
Phoenix: Butler, Richardson


Μετά την ανταλλαγή του πικ 2031 για τρια πικς της Γιούτα φαίνεται ότι το επικείμενο τρειντ θα γίνει πραγματικότητα

Καλά τι πάνε να κάνουν οι Μπακς;

Να αποκτήσουν τρίτο πόλο επίθεσης μιας και ο Μίντλετον δεν παίζει ποτέ.
Η φήμη είναι πρόχειρη. Λογικά θα έχει και άλλους παίκτες.
Ο Κονατον θα φύγει για λόγους 2nd apron. O Portis είναι επιθυμία των Χιτ.

Μου κάνει εντύπωση ότι ο Ραλει θέλει τον Μίντλετον και οχι τον Μπιλ.

[GK_23]

Καλά τι πάνε να κάνουν οι Μπακς;

Να αποκτήσουν τρίτο πόλο επίθεσης μιας και ο Μίντλετον δεν παίζει ποτέ.
Η φήμη είναι πρόχειρη. Λογικά θα έχει και άλλους παίκτες.
Ο Κονατον θα φύγει για λόγους 2nd apron. O Portis είναι επιθυμία των Χιτ.

Μου κάνει εντύπωση ότι ο Ραλει θέλει τον Μίντλετον και οχι τον Μπιλ.

Για να προχωρήσει αυτή η ανταλλαγή οι Bucks θα πρέπει να βάλουν τον Lopez στο πακέτο.

[ssoulliss]

Δεν γίνονται αυτά που γράφουν. Δεν υπάρχει περίπτωση π.χ. οι Bucks να δώσουν τους 2 από τους 3 ψηλούς τους για να κανουν δίδυμο τον Lillard με τον Beal . Ξέρετε πόσους παίκτες άνω των 2 μέτρων θα έχουν μετά; Μόνο τον Γιάννη...

Η αίσθηση που έχω είναι ότι ο Butler στα γεράματα θα φάει μεγάλο καζίκι από τον Pat - άγνωστο που θα καταλήξει, αν καταλήξει κάπου - διότι κανείς δεν βγάζει γλώσσα στον Pat.

[SteveNashidis]

Και το Σικάγο στο κόλπο!!!

[ggr]

Aν πάρουν τον Beal οι Bulls, προβλέπω ο Μιχάλης και ο reignman να στέλνουν κάνα πύραυλο στο front office της ομάδας.

[reignman]

Ειναι αστειο γιατι αυτη τη στιγμη ο καλυτερος παιχτης σε αυτη την ανταλλαγη ειναι με διαφορα ο Lavine. και το chicago θα παρει τα χειροτερα returns αν γινει.
εναν πρωην παιχτη και το χειροτερο δυνατο pick 1ου γυρου μεταξυ 25-30.

Jake Fischer: “Sources tell The Stein Line that LaVine, who has put himself in contention for a third career All-Star selection with his strong play for the Bulls thus far this season, would prefer to remain in Chicago beyond the Feb. 6 deadline..”

[mixalisgate7]

Εξελίξεις σχετικά με τον Fox και τους Kings.

[mixalisgate7]

Τι ακούγεται για τους Μπάτλερ, Λαβίν και Βούτσεβιτς για τους GSW.

As conversations increase in advance of the Feb. 6 trade deadline, the Golden State Warriors have floated a protected version of their 2025 first-round pick around the NBA as a potential sweetener if the right deal were to materialize, league sources told The Athletic.
The Warriors are straddling the middle. They have a 23-23 record and zero intention of entertaining a Stephen Curry rebuild trade, but they don’t currently have a clear move on the chessboard that vaults them back into immediate contention.
But there are mid-sized options and larger salary swings they’re exploring, to varying degrees, and the introduction of their protected 2025 first-rounder as part of the conversation gives them more spending power.
The protection and timing of the pick is important. League sources say the Warriors aren’t necessarily enamored with the prospects predicted to land in the back end of the first round, so losing a pick in the late teens for even a valuable rotation piece could prove plenty worth it.
Once it conveys, they’d retain full control of their 2026 first-rounder for any possible deals this summer. If it didn’t convey, that would mean the Warriors tumbled into the lottery and retained a high-value draft pick in a top-loaded draft that could either be moved or used. The downside is relatively minimal.
As for the targets, Jimmy Butler has again emerged as the hottest name linked to the Warriors in the rumor mill. When the Butler saga exploded in Miami more than a month ago, the Warriors quickly bowed out of any discussions, worried about the price tag and fit, among other concerns. There was zero push from any layer of the organization to get something for Butler done, team sources said.
Butler’s situation in Miami has devolved to a degree that the perceived price tag continues to tumble. The Warriors’ middling season has upped their desperation level for some sort of a shake-up, all the way up to controlling owner Joe Lacob. Team sources have downplayed their recent involvement in conversations with the Heat, but there’s been a noticeable increase in intrigue from the front office about the idea of Butler at a bargain.
After pulse-taking conversations with multiple players, it seems Zach LaVine might pique more interest, depending on his cost. But there is locker-room concern about who the Warriors would send away in a hypothetical trade for a high-salaried player, such as Butler or LaVine. Andrew Wiggins, who has had a productive season well worth his $26.2 million cap figure, is the obvious salary match, with Gary Payton II ($9.1 million) and Kevon Looney ($8 million) profiling as the type of building-block expiring salary that trade partners covet. Wiggins is a 30-minute per night two-way piece, and all three are central figures to the locker room’s culture.
But the culture might have to take a back seat to talent if the Warriors are to make a playoff push. With Jonathan Kuminga considered essentially off the table for any deal involving Butler or LaVine, adding one of the premier wing players has gained some favor. And if such a deal is possible, the idea of LaVine joining their midst has prompted some intrigue among key stakeholders. The presumption is he’d be a better fit in said culture.
There has been some warming to the idea of Butler. In the most optimistic of scenarios, a motivated, healthy Butler jolts the Warriors’ playoff ceiling higher. Butler plays defense, which would be needed if Wiggins is shipped off in a deal. But the drama coming out of Miami is not lost on this locker room. The Warriors already have a mercurial player in Draymond Green — though he usually gets along with those types (see Chris Paul and DeMarcus Cousins) — and adding Butler raises the combustion possibilities.
LaVine is viewed by some within the organization as the safer option. At 29, he’s five and a half years younger and some $6 million cheaper than Butler this season, though his contract extends longer and he’s had some recent health concerns. There are risks all over the board.
But there is some understanding and alignment from all levels of the Warriors organization that they lack a true second scorer next to Curry, and LaVine’s explosive three-level scoring ability would fill the roster’s largest void. He’s averaging 24 points per game this season on 51 percent overall and 44.6 percent from 3.
The acquisition of a stretch center also remains on their radar, though further down the priority list. Any three-for-one deal would very likely mean the promotion of two-way 7-footer Quinten Post to the main roster. Steve Kerr has been comfortable playing him. Post’s success spreading the floor has only highlighted what a capable shooting big can do for the rest of the roster and coaching staff.
The Warriors have discussed Nikola Vučević, and league sources say the Chicago Bulls big man views Golden State as a desirable destination should Chicago decide to deal him. There are differing opinions on how well he’d fit and how much he’s needed, but he’ll remain a secondary option for the Warriors as the market materializes in the next week.
The Warriors are nearly $6 million above the luxury-tax line, and there is a thought to perhaps duck it and help reset the repeater clock, considering their current path to mediocrity. But team sources said getting out of the tax isn’t mandatory — though it would be viewed as an added benefit if it happens within a deal — and maintain that improving the near- and long-term outlook of the on-court product is priority.
They have a week to get that done.

[SteveNashidis]

Ας πάει ο Βeal στο Gsw και ο Μπάτλερ ας έρθει σε εμάς.

Αλλά ο Πατ Ραλει πρώτα θέλει να εξασφαλίσει ότι ο Μπάτλερ δε θα πάει Φοίνιξ και μετά θα τον ανταλλάξει.

Εδώ βγήκε φήμη ότι χαμήλωσε την τιμή των ανταλλαγμάτων στις υπόλοιπες ομάδες εκτός του Φοίνιξ.

[reignman]

δεν υπαρχει καμια λογικη για το butler GSw. δεν κολλαει εκει.
δεν σουταρει, δεν παιζει off the ball πολυ... η αμυνα εχει παει λιγο περιπατο τα τελευταια 1-2 χρονια και θα γινεται μονο χειροτερο απο εδω και περα, ειδικα στους warriors δεν βλεπω να υπαρχει synergy.

[GK_23]

Εξελίξεις σχετικά με τον Fox και τους Kings.

Σύμφωνα με νεότερη ενημέρωση του Shams, ο επιθυμητός προορισμός του Fox είναι οι San Antonio Spurs.